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Needitovani dnevnici bombardovanja + obavjestenja
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05-12.04.99
01-05.4.99
31.3.99
30.3.99
Ranije poruke
Milan
Bane
Blazo Noc 3 Noc 3(nastavak)
Marko
Michael Bliss "Ashamed to be a Canadian"
Leka
Boki
Rodika
Branislav
Goran
05-12.04.99
HRISTOS VASKRSE!!!
Dobar dan!
Pocelo je Uskrsnje maltretiranje - kratkotrajni jutarnji i dnevni
preleti na nasu teritoriju, kako bi se oglasavale sirene i terale ljude
svaki cas u sklonista - a od bombardovanja po danu nista, bar za sada.
Znate kako je, rakete skupe, a avioni u niskom letu predstavljaju dobre
mete za nase nisandzije.
Ta igra postoji da bi se narod iznurivao, jurcao sa malom decom i
cebicima u sklonista, a onda, tek posto bi seli, vec treba da idu
napolje. Ali, mi smo pametne glavice. Znamo vrlo dobro o cemu se radi.
Znamo sta ludacima sve moze da pada na pamet na ovaj, najveci i najlepsi
hriscanski praznik. A sto im ni sveti Vaskrs nije svet - ni to ne cudi.
Ti nesretnici ne samo da su izgubljeni kao individue, jer su svoje
uzane
okvire preopteretili zaduzenjima kojima nisu dorasli, vec su izgubljeni
i kao nacije i kao vernici - ne zna se ni ko su ni sta su: nastali
od
religijskog i drugog evropskog otpada, mnozili se unutar svojih
degenericnih zajednica, radjali degenerike; da li su katolici,
protestanti, jehovini svedoci, sajentolozi..., ko su oni uopste, koliko
je verodostojna njihova varijanta hriscanstva, ako je to uopste
hriscanstvo? Eto zato im nije sveto ovo sto mi imamo ovde vec vekovima,
zato od toga zaziru; pecat vremena na nasoj kulturi se jedva cita,
toliko je star. Verovatno im krene kiselo kada shvate kada i gde je
krunisan prvi srpski kralj, i koliko unazad ide istorija naseg malog
naroda. Da ne pominjem cuveni srebrni escajg na dvoru kralja Dusana
-
dok su englezi zubima kidali divljeg vepra jer za bolje nisu znali...
I sta smo docekali - da svet postane jedan veliki bordel u kojem
americki pimp uredjuje stvari: hvali svoje poslusne evropske i druge
kurve, a lepoticama koje se drznu da odbiju takav protektorat i zivotni
poziv - deli samare, gasi pikavce na kozi, nagrdjuje lice, baca bombe
na
kanjon Tare, rusi kuce, bolnice, obdanista, toplane, mostove. Nekoliko
bolesnih umova, sve sami seksualni manijaci - sto homoseksualci, sto
perverznjaci, sto frustrirani usled gorepomenute degenericnosti i
mentalne i fizicke ruznoce - eto takvi nam se svakodnevno obrusavaju
i
ispustaju svoj pogani tovar na nasu cistu zemlju. Pa cak i na Vaskrs,
sta ih briga. Misle da je pakao daleko, a mozda misle da ga ni nema.
Mi
smo se uverili da ga ima, trenutno je u Jugoslaviji; na nase bezgranicno
zadovoljstvo saznali smo da je klubskog tipa, i da je rezervisan samo
za
bogato zapadno clanstvo.
...
Danas je Velika Subota, crna slova - sto kazu nase bake. To znaci da
moze da se radi. Sve mora da se spremi da blista, jer sutra je veliki
praznik - Vaskrs. U nadi da je ovo zadnji put da ga ovako docekujemo,
molimo se Bogu da prekine ovaj besmisleni i tuzni rat, a Srbe i ostale
Jugoslovene da vrati na put vere i da im podari svoju milost.
Svim pravoslavcima saljemo cestitku od srca: HRISTOS VASKRSE!!!
A nasim drugim prijateljima koji ovo budu citali - veliki pozdrav
od
Vere, Marije i Nedica, i hvala sto mislite na nas.
Noc 16
Dobro vece!
Evo mene u niskom startu kako cekam sirenu. Ovi pokvarenjaci su nekoliko
prethodnih veceri dolazili uvek u isto vreme, oko 20h 15min; mi smo
se
taman bili navikli, kad oni promenise taktiku. Evo sad je vec proslo
pola deset, a njih nema. Dete je leglo da spava, Nedic takodje, a ja
glumim dezurnog, cekam uzbunu pa da probudim ovo dvoje. Ne usudjujemo
se
da polegamo svi u isto vreme, uvek neko daje strazu.
Neverovatno je kako se covek na sve navikne. Sada nam je potpuno
normalna zivotna situacija cucanje u onom ruznom sklonistu i nagadjanje
sta ce sledece da gadjaju. Sinoc smo bili zgranuti njihovim najnovijim
cinicnim beogradskim ispadom - pogodili su jednu vladinu zgradu u
strogom centru, izbezumili nepokretne bolesnike u obliznjoj bolnici,
i
jos vise naljutili ovdasnji zivalj. Ljudi ih samo psuju, tako socno,
kako samo jugovici znaju.
Juce je Nedic imao malo slobodnog vremena pa smo se prvi put prosetali
po gradu, otisli u Grinet na kapucino, i definitivno se uverili da
je u
Beogradu pocelo prolece. Svet se razgolitio, setkaju se sa sladoledima,
setaju kucice - na momenat ti se ucini da je sve u redu. A onda, kad
smo
usli u nas stan i ugledali gomilu cebadi i jastuka koji stoje na gotovs
u hodniku (nosimo puno stvari u skloniste, jer je hladno i zuljevito
na
onim montaznim kreveticima) - samo smo splasnuli.
Ali dobro. Sta je - tu je. Veceras su zurke na mostovima - ljudi nece
sa
istih da se maknu, kako ih ovi kreteni ne bi srusili. Nedic je imao
bolje resenje za taj problem: rekao je da privezu one marince sto su
ih
pohvatali, za svaki most po jednog - pa nek onda rokaju do mile volje.
Ali slaba vajda, nemas kome da pricas - nasi politicari nikad nisu
dobro
razmisljali pod pritiskom.
Danas je zvala Minja, bas lose raspolozena. Mogu misliti kako ludite
vi
tamo, koji ste u srcu takve patoloske kampanje protiv nas. Mi nismo
cvece, ali u ovoj stvari smo ispravni. Ja sam cak duboko ubedjena da
ce
se nekim ljudima suditi zbog ovoga; ako ne uskoro, onda za desetinu
godina. Ako ne zato sto su izmaltretirali jednu siromasnu, malu zemlju,
onda zato sto su svetski mir izlozili neverovatno velikoj opasnosti.
Ko se bude cuo sa Slavicom i Bokijem, neka ih mnogo pozdravi. Mnogo
nam
nedostaju; jedva cekamo da se prikace na mrezu, pa da cesce
kontaktiramo.
Danas je zvao i Vecin Dragan, Minja ga poznaje, za ostale ne znam. Bio
je na nekom putu na dalekom Istoku bas kad je ovo pocelo, i tek je
nedavno stigao. I on je covek skrhan od brige. Glas mu se promenio.
Sta hocu da kazem: nemojte se mnogo sekirati, ovo mora da se istutnji.
Kako je pocelo, tako ce i da se zavrsi. Mi cemo svi gledati da prodjemo
najbolje sto mozemo, i gledacemo da izvucemo i neku korist iz ovoga.
Meni ove konfliktne situacije svakako pogoduju u profesionalnom smislu
(posto se bavim pisanjem), ali ovaj put bih inspiraciju vrlo rado
zrtvovala zarad svakodnevnog, normalnog, dosadnog i neinspirativnog
zivota kakav smo do pre dve nedelje svi mi vodili, i na koji smo se
toliko zalili.
Do daljnjeg, hvala vam svima sto mislite na nas, i sto nam se javljate
-
na ovaj ili onaj nacin.
Puno vas voli Vera, a da su budni, sigurno bi vas pozdravili i Marija
i
Nedic. Cao, cujemo se uskoro!
05.04.99
Cao!
Jos jedan lep i suncan dan u Beogradu! Toliko lep, da potpuno anulira
efekte ruzne noci koja mu je prethodila. Prolece u punom zamahu, sve
mirise na zelenilo i pupoljke.
Ovi NATO glupani su potpuno izgubili glavu. Ponasaju se kao neki, ne
narocito inventivan, manijak, koji drzi gomilu nevinih ljudi, pa svaki
dan smakne po jednog, izivljavanja radi. Sta ce da bude kad pogode
sve
mete koje su prethodno naznacili? Sta ce onda da smacinju?
...
Srecom te je nas narod navikao tesko da zivi, pa mu ovo nije nista.
Ne
ide se ide na posao, svi sede po kucama ili sklonistima, i krasno se
druze. Samo pljuste tablici i jambovi, propraceni neizbeznom kaficom.
Za
cigarete je malo teze, nestasica je, ali i tu nam cine uslugu - narod
se
manje truje.
Deca vole da idu u sklonista, valjda im lice na njihova obdanista. A
i
lepo smo ih sredili. Imamo montazne krevete na sprat, klinci u njima
mogu da spavaju i odmore se, a i mi odrasli tu i tamo dremnemo.
Koncerti na Trgu emituju veliku pozitivnu energiju: odatle se napaja
ceo
grad. Ljudi se fenomenalno drze, i u duhu pravog Hriscanstva raduju
se
sto su zrtve a ne agresori. Kakav god ishod ovog rata bio, svi se
osecamo kao moralni pobednici.
Imamo dosta materijalne stete, ali to nije nista u poredjenju sa stetom
koju su pretrpele njihove duse - to je BEYOND REPAIR. I jednog lepog
dana, kada svi oni zavrse svoje zemaljske zivote i misije i pokusaju
da
odu gore, shvatice da je to, kako jedan transparent sa Trga rece:
"MISSION IMPOSSIBLE", jer su, ruseci nase mostove jedan po jedan,
zapravo rusili svoje stepenice ka nebu.
...
Ovaj rat i nije tako los. TV Politika je, u nastupu kreativnog ludila,
odlucila da emituje danju samo crtace, a nocu dobre filmove. Tako da
svi
ljudi sada gledaju jednu prilicno cudnu kombinaciju ratnih izvestaja
i
decjih sadrzaja - solidan mentalni eliksir.
Eto tako smo vam mi. Nemojte da se sekirate, nego podelite nas prkos.
Mi smo prava stvarnost, oni virtuelna. Mi igramo igru zivota, oni igraju
igrice. Mi smo partizani, oni Nemci. Mi smo inteligentni, a oni su
Ameri
i Englezi.
Puno vas vole Vera, Marija i Blazo.
Sat 3.4.
Dobar dan dobri ljudi!
Verovatno su vas potresle nocasnje slike iz Beograda. Ne sekirajte se.
Nije tako strasno kao sto izgleda. Ipak su to samo zgrade. Daleko
vaznije i potresnije su slike ogromnih koncerata koje svakodnevno
organizujemo u samom centru grada. Potresne su mete koje su ljudi
okacili sebi i deci na glave i grudi, i zivi stitovi kojima se cuvaju
fabrike i mostovi. Potresni su jedinstvo i duhovitost ovog naroda.
Sto
nas vise tuku, to se plemenitije i superiornije osecamo. Cudan
mehanizam, ali dobro radi. "Ne mogu nam nista" - sto rece Dr. Nele
Karajlic - "jer im fali nekoliko vekova kulture i brdo procitanih
knjiga".
O srcu i da ne govorimo.
Vole vas Vera, Marija i Blazo.
Evo jos malo doskocica sa Trga:
"Moj je vidljiv, a ne pada"
"Only your brains are invisible"
"Nema nam spasa, moramo pobediti"
"Jeftino prodajem polovan F-117a, moze i u delovima"
"Celzi, sakam da te fakam"
"Mission impossible"
"Bili, trebalo je da skrenes kod Albukerkija"
"Monika, stisni zube"
"Avionu slomicu ti krila, da ne letis za debila Bila"
"SFOR u tor, NATO u blato"
"Boli me dupe za Nato trupe"
"WANTED: Dead or alive, ADOLF KLINTON, reward $1"
"Molden, the truth is here"
"Daleko vam Bela kuca"
"Amerika je super-sila, klonirala Adolfa u Bila"
"Bili, ubicu te ko zeca"
"Ko na nas krene iz mesta je najebo"
"Ko zeli pobjediti, ne smije izgubiti"
Evo vam neke od parola-transparenata-banera
(whatever) sa Koncerta:
- F-117a, ha, ha, ha, ...
- Sorry, we didn't know it was invisible
- No Ryan will be saved
- Menjamo havarisan F-117a za saku cigareta.
- We 're simply the best
- Forgive them, God, they don't know what they are doing
- Joj, ako ti uhvatim pilota...
- Bili, Bili, bas si krme
Do onih u stilu
- Mozes da nam pusis Klintone
naravno zacinjeno svakavim mogucim zivopisno vulgarnim ilustracijama.
Bice jos.
Blazo
Noc 6
UPRAVO SU DVE TRESNULE NEGDE BLIZU !!!
Sada je tacno 02.55 u sredu 31.3.99. (poruka ide u Outbox, jer
nije lako
zakaciti se, pa kad stigne da ode)
Devojke spavaju, jer su ukljucili sirene tek oko 01.00 a tada nismo
imali snage da idemo dole. Juce smo sedeli u sklonistu od 19.00
do
04.00.
Veceras su nas uzbunili negde oko 19.00 a prestalo je oko 21.00.
Problem postaje sto i kada daju znak za prestanak, cesto ponovo
daju
uzbunu za 30-40 min, tako da stariji ili ljudi sa decom i ne izlaze.
Onda smo Vera i ja 'vecali' oko 20 min da li da izlazimo ili ne,
jer se
Marija upravo lepo bila namestila da zaspi u sklonistu. Medjutim.
s
obzirom da Vera i ja 'spavamo' na smenu, odlucili smo da odemo
kuci.
Legli smo oko 23.00 a ja se probudio oko 02.00 kad je ponovo data
uzbuna. Kakva dilema, jasno se cuje da biju oko Beograda, a ja
ne znam
da li da ih sada budim ili ne, jer smo vec svi veoma iscrpljeni,
a
sasvim je moguce da su zlotvori istresli tovar i otisli. Ili mozda
ne ?
Pa vi vidite kakva je psihoza ovde.
Obicno je najmirniji period od 06.00 do oko 10.00 ujutro. Valjda
i oni
moraju malo da dremnu !
Sa vedrije strane, i danas je bio koncert na Trgu. Bile su neverovatne
face, Nele Karajlic, Generacija 5, Inspektor Blaza ("Lepa si Pamela")..
pa sve do onog originalnog lika iz "Ko to tamo peva" koji je majstorski
na harmonici sa pratecim bendom odsvirao "ZA BEOGRAD", uz ovacije
i
delirijum svih prisutnih.
Ne znam koliko je bilo ljudi ali Trg je prepun. Svi nose "METE"
(Target), mozda ste ih vec i videli. Ima i sutra.
Pozdrav Marija, Vera, Blazo
p.s. Sada je 03.40. i kao da se malo smirilo.
prosledjujem:
Advertisement seen in classified section of Belgrade Evening News:
F-117 Stealth Invisible Fighter Bomber
Low Milage. Near new condition. Some body work required.
1/2 cost of new model.
US$20millon or nearest offer.
30.03.98
U ovim teskim danima za Crnu Goru, poslao bih jedan apel za sve
koji zive na tim
Crnogorskim prostorima da ne dozvole Milosevicevoj armadi da rasporedjuje
vojne efektive
po urbanim djelovima C. Gore jer je to zlocinacki cin direkno usmjeren
protiv neduznih
civila, a za interese Balkanskog manijaka sa Dedinja i njegove
sulude politike.
Ako Crnogorski narode i sve nacionalne manjine volite C. Goru vi
cete to sprijeciti,
posto sadasnja vlast to nije sposobna, jer nju niko nista ne pita,
a i njihove ingerencije
su minimalne zahvajuljuci njima samim.
S postovanjem Dragan Ilic
Nadam se da su tvoja majka, rodjaci i prijatelji svi u redu. Znam
da su
jos prvog dana bombardovali tvoj grad. Moja majka ne moze da se
krije u
podrumu, zbog mog dede koji je nepokretan. Kada sirene oznace vazdusni
napad ona stavi neki sto za kafu iznad njegove glave a ona sama
sedi
pored njega. Otac i njegova porodica odlaze u podrum za vreme vazdusnih
napada. Moja mala polusestra, koja ima 13 godina, stalno place
kada cuje
sirene. Ovo sam sve saznao jer uspem da dobijem vezu oko 2 ili
3 am.
Jagodina jos uvek nije bombardovana, ali Kragujevac jeste.
Osecam se cudno: besan sam, ali me griza savesti sto se isto tako
nisam
osecao dok smo mi bombardovali Sarajevo ili palili albanska sela,
spusta
na zemlju. Depresivan sam jer shvatam da smo mi Srbi nisko pali,
mozda
najnize do sada. Prvi smo prihvatili razum sile, i to nam se sada
obija o
glavu.
Vise od bombardovanja plasi me 'aftermath'. Milosevic je ponovo
uspeo da
okupi naciju iza sebe, ovaj put ne zato sto je on licno mnogo popularan,
nego zato sto je svako protiv bombardovanja.
Izvini na ovom emotivnom pisaniju, pretpostavljam da ces razumeti.
Srdacni pozdravi,
Dejo
Milutin Djurickovic
Dear Friends:
Below is the phone number of the White House comment line, which
is open from
9 AM to 5 PM Eastern time. Let's all flood their phone lines
with calls
urging the President to stop the bombing of our friends and families
in Serbia
and Montenegro!
White House Comment Line --- (202) 456-1414
We can also surprise Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Ambassador
Dick
Holbrooke with our calls:
Albright --- (202) 647-5291
Holbrooke --- (202) 647-0684
Please forward this message to all of your friends!
RIGHT NOW, SERBS AND OTHERS WHO WISH TO HELP, START ORGANIZING WORK
GROUPS AND SCHEDULE APPOINTMENTS WITH THE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN
OF YOUR STATE. TELL THEM THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT IS TRULY HAPPENING.
WE
MUST STOP THE BOMBING NOW. SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN TEND
TO LISTEN MORE
CAREFULLY TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. CONTACT THEM IMMEDIATELLY.
THOSE OF YOU
FROM CANANDA AND OTHER COUNTRIES CONTACT MEMBERS OF YOUR PARLIAMENT
AND
SCHEDULE APPOINTMENTS. THE BOMBING MUST STOP NOW!!! FORWARD
THIS TO
EVERYONE, OUR GOAL IS BY THE END OF TODAY, IS TO HAVE WORK
GROUPS FROM AT
LEAST 35 US STATES, AND ALL CANADIAN PROVINCES. PLEASE EMAIL
ME AND LET ME
KNOW, WHAT STATE OR PROVINCE YOU ARE FROM. I AM BASED IN
MARYLAND AND
WASHINGTON D.C. FULL LIST OF SENATORS ON WWW.SENATE.GOV,
FOR HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES SIMPLY DO A NET SEARCH. GOD BLESS, BOG POMAZE!
CCCC
MILUTIN DJURICKOVIC
MARYLAND
zoran joksimovic <mirezo@interlog.com>
As a Canadian, I must voice my moral outrage at the bombing of Serbia.
These attacks have been unprovoked. They have been carried
out with the
excuse of stopping a Balkan conflagration or stopping massacres
in
Kosovo.
Serbia has been fighting a battle with the KLA (a well-armed terrorist
organization with teh goal of forming an independent state.)
The battle
has taken place entirely within the borders of Yugoslavia. The
Albanians
of Kosovo have refused to take part in any state activities within
Yugoslavia for 15 years, including elections (despite the presence
of
western observers).
- NATO did not bomb Ottawa when
our forces put down the FLQ
- NATO did not bomb London
when the British put down the IRA
- NATO did not bomb Madrid
when the Spanish put down the Basques.
- NATO did not bomb Mexico
City when they put down the Chiapas
Indians
- NATO did not bomb Ankara
when they put down the Kurds (or sent
tropps,
tanks and planes into neighboring countries to hunt down escaping
Kurdish refugees)
With regard to the massacres in Kosovo, more people have been murdered
in New York and Los Angeles in the past year. Deaths in Kosovo
include
Serbs too. Which massacre is it that the Canadian government
is
concerned about? The Serbs have been labeled as committing
genocide and
are being punished for this, yet:
- 37,000 Kurds were massacred
in Turkey in the last year (not to
mention 2,000,000 Armenians, and over 500,000 Greeks in this Century)
- 500,000 Rwandans were massacred
in Central Africa (with Canadian
forces observers present)
- tens of thousands of Christians
are being massacred in southern
Sudan
- tens of thousands of Palestinians
have been killed by Israeli
forces since 1950
Where is Canada? Do we stand for the rights of Black Africans or
African
Christians? Do we stand for the rights of minorities seeking
independence from NATO countries? May I remind you that you said
a 50+1
percent vote for Quebec separation was not enough? Do you stand
for the
rights of Canadians?
Ethnic cleasing has, and continues to apparently be acceptable in
the
eyes of the Canadian government as attested to by:
- North American native tribes
- Christians and Palestinians
in Isreal (they bulldoze 'illegal'
homes rather than burn them)
- Christians throughout the
Islamic countries of the Middle East
(in most of these countries it is illegal to even build a church)
- Coptic Christians in Egypt
- Cleansing of Serbs from Krajina
(again with NATO bombing), not
to mention the cleasing of Serbs from Kosovo which has been ongoing
since
the beginning of WW II to the present time (during the war by the
Albanian alliance with the Axis powers; after the war by Tito who
was a
violently anti-Serbian Croation; and since Tito by the threats
of the
West to leave well-enough alone.)
"Maksimovic, C." <c.maksimovic@ic.ac.uk>
Predlazem da, ko za to ima mogucnosti (posebno ko zivi u UK)
nabavi
danasnji ( Nedelja 28 mart) broj INDEPENDENTA. Nekoliko vrlo interesantnih
clanaka. Posebno redakcijski "column" na starni 26
===============================================
The Independent on Sunday 28 March 1999
This is not a just war
Pocetak:
The best way to support British servicemen in the Kosovo campaign
is to
pull them out and bring them home. They are risking their lives
to redeem
the crimes and mistakes of political leaders. They are struggling
to make
sense of the paradox of war, as they try to save lives by
slaughter and
pound hatred into the ground. While they are committed to combat,
of
course, no hesitance at home, no frailty of command must be allowed
to
endanger them. War, once joined must be fought with resolution.
But that
does not mean that war, in the present case, is justified. the
call to
support our servicemen should not exempt civilians from sanity
or
politicians from condemnation. We owe "our boys" solidarity in
their
sacrifice - and candour in denouncing the folly that demands it
of them .....
...........
All war is eveil, but Nato's attack on Yugoslavia is worse
than that: it is
a mistake. The longer the bombing continues, the less easy is to
beleave
that it will bring peace to the Balkans. On the contrary,
all the
indicators are that it will make things worse.
................
The armchair generals have said all along that bombing would fail.
Now they
will step up their demand for the deployment of ground troops.
But that
would be to throw more good lives after bad politics. The best
we can hope
for now is that, having tired our purposless bombing, Nato will
declare a
victory, call of the attacks and enter into negotiations. It's
the Anglo-
Amirican way.
....................
Kraj:
At a time when east and south-east Europe are crowded
with forntiers
bristling with inter communal hatreds and stained by spasmodic
blood-letting, the alternative is to support pluralist politicians,
to
stimulate economic growth, to disarm resenment, to nurse prosperity
and to
give traditional enemies a common interest in peace. And
to try again with
each failure. To reject diplomacy in favor of aggresive war is,
to
paraphrase the Prime Minister, simply the wrong thing to do. It
will gain us
and Kosovars, nothing.
=============
Prof. C. Maksimovic
From: BOKI <kaplan@EUnet.yu>
Subject: PAZI MALO - SALJI DALJE
PAZNJA PAZNJA VRLO, VRLO VAZNO
JUGOSLAVIJA - SRBIJA JE U RATU........ ponavljam.......... JUGOSLAVIJA
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SRBIJA JE U RATU I TO NE U U OBICNOM VEC U RATU SA TEHNICKI
NAJOPREMLJENIJOM SNAGOM TRENUTNO. TO NIJE RAT ORUZJEM U KLASICNOM
SMISLU, U NJEGA JE UKLJUCENO SVE STO JE POZNATO DO SADA. DEO TOGA
JE I
OBAVESTAJNO SPIJUNSKI RAT I PRIKUPLANJE INFORMACIJA. JUGOSLOVENI
I SRBI I U
MATICNOJ ZEMLJI I SIROM SVETA PAZITE STA PISETE U VASIM ELEKTRONSKIM
PORUKAMA (EMAIL, FAX, WEB) I STA GOVORITE TELEFONOM ILI PREKO WEBA.
SVE
INFORMACIJE SE FILTRIRAJU I KORISTE U PLANIRANJE VAZDUSNIH NAPADA
I
KOREKCIJI CILJEVA PA I U PLANIRANJU DALJIH DEJSTAVA. NE IZNOSITE
DETALJE,
GUBITKE, LOKACIJE, VREME I SL. I AKO NEPRIJATELJ VIDI I IMA VECINU
INFORMACIJA KAKO PREKO SVOJIH CENTARA ZA OSMATRANJE I LJUDI U ZEMLJI
NE
MOZE DA ZNA SVE I NE SME. NADJITE NACINA DA KOMUNICIRATE SA BLIZNJIMA
BEZ
DETALJA I OBAVESTITE SVE KOJE ZNATE NA BILO KOJI NACIN O OVOME.
Vojislav Rodic <vrodic@inet.co.yu>
Imam ideju sta cemo sa zarobljenim pilotima:
Da im odvojimo nekoliko tezgi na buvljoj pijaci da prodaju
modele aviona u kojima smo ih oborili i da svakom
detetu po stoti put pricaju sta su radili iznad nase
zemlje, koji su im bili ciljevi i kako su oboreni.
Kad prodaju po 10.000 aviona, da ih pustimo kucama.
Naravno, sav prihod ide u fond za postradale od
bombardovanja.
Vojislav Rodic
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From: SBMPESIC [SMTP:pesic+@pitt.edu]
>4) predaju zarobljenih pilota Amerikancima i time, moguce je, PREKID
RATA
>(!) Time ce Srbi pokazati, da NE ZELE OVAJ RAT i DA SU, KULTURNO
SUPERIORAN
>NAROD.
>- Da li mozda da ih predaju majke poginulih ? Po vama je predaja
zlocinaca
>bez kazne kultura. Covece sta se trpate tamo gde vam nije
mesto. Vi ste
>varvarin.
Neko je "varvarin", neko balvan. Ne govorim o predaji. Govorim o
pokusaju
zaustavljanja NEKONTROLISANE spirale nasilja. Vi bi, kao Somalijci,
da
vucete pilotov les pred kamerama. Ja bih da izbegnem nuklearizaciju
svega
ovoga, jer vi ne znate, kakvih sve umova ovde ima i sta je protiv
Srba,
skoro deceniju, USADJIVANO U GLAVE OBICNIH, A TOGA NESVESNIH AMERIKANACA.
Vi biste broj majki poginulih ustostrucavali. Ja bih, da broj majki
poginulih ostane dvocifren.
SBMPESIC
jovan@ssci.com (Jovan D. Boskovic)
Dear Sir/Madam,
I have been following your coverage of the Kosovo crisis.
One thing that I have noticed in your TV coverage is that
there is so little information about the so-called Kosovo
Liberation Army (KLA). Then I saw an article on KLA by Jim
Clancy at http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/10/kosovo. I hoped
the article will help me to find out more about this
organization.
However, after reading the article, I was, to say the least,
very disappointed. I read previously Chris Hedges's article
on the same topic in the yesterday's NYT. I am wandering as
to why Mr. Clancy failed to inform us that the KLA is closely
tied to one of the biggest heroin cartels in Europe and the
US. Why weren't we told that their ideology is a strange
mixture of Maoism and islamic fundamentalism, and that they
are not interested in democracy and human rights, but only in
creation of ethnicaly pure Greater Albania? Why weren't we
told that they have been on a killing rampage against both
the Serbs and Albanians who disagree with their methods? Why
weren't we told that the KLA was branded a terrorist
organization by the US officials? Why weren't we told that
American men and women are risking their lives for an
organization that has helped spread death on the streets of
US cities? Unprofessional journalism, incompetence,
ignorance, or something else?
Sincerely,
Dr. Jovan D. Boskovic
Aleksandar Jovicic <ajovicic@EUnet.yu>
Dobro bi bilo kada bi dok traje ovo sra* sto vise nas bombardovalo
CNN, Sky
i MSNBC sajtove, sto porukama, koje nam idu u prilog, sto realnim
informacijama, to dezinformacijama, sto pingovima radi zagusenja.
Jos nesto, Pentagon svoja naredjenja i planove distribuira preko
Mreze i za
Aviano i svuda drugo, treba im maksimalno zagusiti kanale........
---
Ameri su definitivno glupi i koriste postojecu infrastrukturu ...
Ajd' da i
ovako pomognemo da ovi skotovi polome zube ... DANASNJI RATOVI
SE VISE VODE
INFORMACIJAMA NEGO PUSKAMA!!!
Molim Vas da ovo shvatite ozbiljno posto nije sala ... Sistem komandovanja
im je labilan (ceo Internet se zasniva na TCP/IP protokolu koji
je izumeo DoD)
Pozdrav,
A. Jovicic
From: Sasa Grujic <sgrujic@yahoo.com
Izvestaj sa demonstracija odrzanih ispred fasistickog konzulata
sjedinjenih
fasistickih zemalja u Torontu. Po mojoj slobodnojproceni
okupilo se oko
1500 ljudi sto je jos uvek sramotno malo obzirom koliko nas ovde
u Torontu
ima. Pevale su se pesme, skandiralo, malo suletela jaja i paradajz
(mnogo
manje nego juce kada je fasistickikonzulat bio bukvalno ulifan
jajima)
verovatno zato sto je policija sadapostavile barikade oko konzulata,
drzale
su se svece, ZVIZDALO iz svihmogucih zvizdaljki (nekih i originalnih
beogradskih)... Sve u svemubiloje veoma bucno i ogorceno. Onda
su
svestenici odrzali molitvu za Srbijui za sve zrtve pale u zlocinackim
napadima. To je i trabalo i da bude kraj okupljanja za ovo vece.
Mi smo vec
krenuli ka parkingu kada jepoleteo jedan molotovljev koktel prema
vratima
konzulata. Vratakonzulata je zahvatila vatra. Prisutni policajci
su vatru
veoma brzo ugasili. Tada je izgleda i doslo do nekih obracuna izmedju
policije i demonstranata. Nasi su izgleda poceli da bacaju gvozdene
barikade premakonzulatu tako da su i neki policajci bili povredjeni.
Oko
300najupornijih (i najhrabrijih) je ostalo i prkosilo konjici i
policijijos
neko vreme. Ima uhapsenih.Kanadjani ocigledno ne znaju da je velikibroj
prisutnih dobro istreniran u ulicnim demonstracijama jos
mnogo pre nego
sto je i krocilo u Kanadu. Za sve ove godine bilo je vrlo mnogo
srpskih
demonstracija ovde koje su uveknezapazeno prolazile u medijima.
Kanadjane
je zaprepastilo i uzasnulo da neko moze da baca jaja i lomi stakla
na
konzulatu u Torontu. Posledica danasnje demonstracije su bile pomno
pracene
na svim vaznijim radio iTVstanicama. Jedna TV koja emituje non-stop
vesti
gotovo da je stalnouzivo prenosila demonstracije. Posle su u studio
pozvali
Dostanica iz Novog Sada koji je fenomenalno govorio zasto Srbi
protestuju i
stahoce. Radio stanice su pocele da organizuju razgovore i ankete
nakoji
mase moze cuti da i ovde ima ljudi koji vide i misle dalje od CNN-a
(cijije
vrhunski cinizam da ova bombardovanja nisu usmerena protiv
srpskognaroda!!!). Sve u svemu ovoliko vremena na TV-u nismo nikad
imali.Jedino je pitanje da li ce nam vise dozvoljavati da se okupljamo.
InaceSrbi demonstriraju sirom Kanade; Otava, Montreal, Kalgari,
Regina
iizgleda posebno uspesno u Vankuveru. Eto toliko.Da ste nam svi
zivi i
zdravi.Smrt fasizmu!Sa verom u Boga za SrbijuGruGru
From: "Zoran Kulina" <kulina@attcanada.net
Danas smo ponovo imali demonstracije u Torontu.Ispocetka je bilo
dobro:
pjesme, himna, molitva...Medjutim negdje oko 9 sati se dosta protestanata
razislo (ostala je samo oko1/3) uglavnom maloljetnici...Poceli
su paliti
ambasadu, zastave...Ambasada je zaista pocela da gori, ali su vatrogasci
uspjeli ubrzo da ugase pozar (NAZALOST)Bilo je sve zesce i zesce
i mnogo su
odlazili. Ostala je grupica od oko 200 razjarenih maloljetnika...Poceli
su
da ruse, razbijaju...mnogi sve to ne podrzavaju (smatraju nas primitivnim
vandalistima),ali ko su onda oni...Ali morate da shvatite da je
to jedan od
nasih vidova podrske, (mozda izgleda vandalisticki), ali mi na
taj nacin
istresamo visak negativne energije...Mediji u Torontu su to zaista
prikazali krajnje vandalisticki: bez pjesme,molitve...prikazali
su samo taj
zadnji dio...Svi mi smo uz vas, cuvajte se i molim vas izdrzite...NEKA
VAS
BOG DRAGI CUVA..
From: "Dipl.Ing.Zolnaj Zelimir, Doktorand" <ZOLNAJ@kchsz.sjf.stuba.sk
Dragi zemljaci...Danas je u Slovackoj prestonici Bratislavi zakazan
veliki
mitingispred USA ambasade u 16.00h...Suorganizatori smo mi studenti
iz
Jugoslavije i lokalne patriotskeo rganizacije....Bratski slovacki
narod, je
zgrozen sta je uradeno jednoj suverenoj drzavi...a kao znak podrske
javljaju se slovacki dobrovoljci u odbranu bratske slovenske
zemlje.Agresori su ovim cinom stvorili 10 miliona Milosevica...umesto
da
serese jednog jos pre nekoliko godina...S verom u Boga i Otadzbinu...
Zoky, from Kovacica (YU)
(From: "Mihail Sergejev" <lunja@hotmail.comPismo je preuzeto
sa ruskog
foruma:Jugoslavija?????: Damjan <d.stojanovski@russia.com????:
???????, 26
????? 1999 ????, 07:06
We (orthodox Macedonians) are not stupid like most western nations
(especially Europeans, because most Americans are stupid people
by
definition). You sit before television (Ex. CNN or BBC) and watching
how
your representatives spend your tax money, how they lie to you.
Are you
really so stupid trusting to everything what they are saying about
Serbian
people? Do you know the meaning of word History? You should read
more
history to know better other nations. You should thanks Serbian
people for
many things... However, the main goal to USA (CIA, DIA, NATO) is
not apeace
- not at all, because they want control Europe through Balkan!
There will
be no peace for terrorists-separatists-bandits in every country
in the
whole world, who says? Double standards.For your REAL
information:Yugoslavia is the only true independence country in
Europe now.
Yes,Americans don't have influence there (in Yugoslavia) like in
all other
European countries: the new (old) "DEVIDE ET IMPERA" - The New
(American)World Order. Hay, EUROPE where are you? Are you (the
old lady)
going to be ever UNITED STATES OF EUROPE? Of course not, Greedy
Americans
are always here, because they are afraid from the power of U.S.E.!
You
(westernEuropeans) should shame and not only shame from these strikes
against Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia does not attack any country in the
region.
The one and the only "sin" what is going to Yugoslavia is because
American
State Department can not rule with that country. So, Americans
stay out
from Europe and with your "tomahawk-human rights & democracy"
vocabulary:
Go to hell. Europe to the Europeans! Basic Constitution Rule to
every
country isto defend their people against terrorism and separatism
(Spain,
UK, France,Italy, Turkey, ., Yugoslavia). Albanians have their
own country
in Albania.They can not have two countries. No other nation in
the world
has two countries. Yugoslavia has a right to defend her territorial
integrity and independence on every square millimeter like any
other state
in the world.They do not need permission for that, especially not
from the
lousiest loverin the world Mr. Billy (by the way are you trusting
to CNN
that the oral sexis not a sex?). What is the next step to Mr. Billy?
Russian Federation maybe? Russian people where are you, wake up?
Or, maybe
the next is China?China, India are you so blind? My message for
the young
Europeans: Think with your own HEADS, not with the CNN, or other
mind
controlling e-media(s),for prosperity to the next generations of
Europeans!Long live United States of Europe (with Russia, but without
USA)!!!I wish all this really the worst things what you (americans)
do to
us (toMacedonians and Serbs) here on the Balkan (in the heart of
Europe) to
happen in the very near future to you (fat & stupid) Americans.You
(CNN)
lie again, again and again. Yes, your flag and embassy was burning
yesterday (25.03.99) in Skopje, the capital of the most beautiful
Republicin the Balkan - MACEDONIA. We did it, the orthodox Macedonians.
You
have to know forever that we are not stupid, but more: we are much
cleverer
than anyother citizens from the west are, especially from you americans
are. We are with our brothers Serbs, so that mean you are in war
with us
Macedonians.Maybe we don't have tomahawks but have Indian tomahawks
for
every soldier to NATO forces here in Macedonia. NATO go home, stay
out from
Macedonia and never come back again. Go to nacists in Germany or
to your
slave Britain.You are not here for the good of Macedonia. You are
here to
make war between us and ethnic Albanians.Again: We are not stupid
or blind
not to see it. You are war machinery for killing people, soon or
a later
you are going to breakdown.Long lives (mother of all Slavic People)
Russia!!!!!!!!!!Long lives independent California!Macedonian, Damjan
Stojanovski (ENGINEER)
From: "Arthur Stokes and Katarina Markovic" <vitam@csi.com
Samo da sa zaljenjem konstatujem da je moja akcija sirenja istine
po
americi rezultirala mnogim pretnjama upucenim licno meni i srbima
uopste.
Ja sam danas poslala po svom univerzitetu (pre svega studentima
i
predsedniku i administraciji) pismo profesora Raphael-a Izraeli-a
sa
Jerusalimskoginstituta, koje sam pokusala da posaljem i na ovu
listu, ali
izgleda da je predugacko i nije mogo da se pojavi (ako je neko
zainteresovan, pisite meni licno). Pismo pokazuje da ima pametnog
sveta
koji shvata sta se desava ovde.Reakcija je medjutim bila prilicno
zestoka,
kao da sam ih dirnula uoko...zaista tuzno s obzirom da je moj univerzitet
jedan od najvecih tzv."liberalnih, jevrejskih" univerziteta. Videla
sam
danas ko su u stvari ti americki "levicari", "intelektualci", "liberali",
"feministkinje" itd.Takodje sam dobila pismo od prijateljice Grkinje
u
americi sa sadrzinompisma koje je Grcka Crkva u americi poslala
klintonu.
To saljem kao attachment (ako ne izadje na ovoj listi, opet mi
pisite da
vam posaljem).Mozda ovakva pisma podrske (zvuci poznato, zar ne?)
mogu da
se citaju na nasim demonstracijama i da se salju dalje po americi
i
svetu.Pozdrav od Katarine
From: <A HREF=3D"aol://3548:JaredI"JaredI</AHellenic Orthodox
Traditionalist Church of AmericaHoly Metropolis of the Greek OrthodoxOld
Calendar Church of AmericaCathedral of Saint Markella22-68 26th
Street
Astoria, NY 11105E-mail: Smyrna1922@AOL.COMFrom:Metropolitan Archbishop
PAVLOSOf the Greek Orthodox Old Calendar ChurchOf North and South
AmericaMember of the Holy Synod of the Old Calendar Church of GreeceUnder
the Presidency of Archbishop CHRYSOSTOMOS II of Athens and All
Greec=e
To:William Jefferson Clinton President of the United States of
America1600
Pennsylvania AvenueWashington, D.C.March 23, 1999
Dear Mr. President, Again I write to you as a Christian and as
an
American.Sir, we are poised on the brink of disaster, a disaster
that is
manifold in its dimensions and character.As I expressed to you
in my
previous letter this imminent and unprovoked attack against Yugoslavia
is
immoral. Even the trepidation alone that we have instilled in the
people of
Yugoslavia is a horror. The fact that this is exactly one of our
intentions
is offensive.Legally speaking our country is heading toward the
perpetration of a crime of international proportions.We are acting
without
a UN mandate.We are violating the very charter of the NATO Pact.NATO
is
acting without a UN mandate.We are violating every international
law
governing respect for the sovereignty of nations.We are acting
without the
mandate of the American people. Do the American people truly believe
our
national interests are at stake? Arecent CBS Radio broadcast quoted
a poll
that said 50% of Americans cannot find Kosovo on a map! Is this
the
well-informed constituency that gives us a mandate to attack Yugoslavia?I
ask again by what authority do we act? Is it the authority of the
law of
God, the law of our country, or international law?We are about
to send our
sons into an open-ended quagmire that willbring only death and
destruction
for all involved. We claim we want to end the killing in Kosovo.
Let's
remember that it has been theterrorist gangs known as the KLA that
have
been the first to violate every cease-fire since the Serbs agreed
to a
cease-fire. Almost everytime violence has erupted since the beginning
of
this conflict it was the KLA that was the first to commit such
violence.American boys are being asked to prepare to kill and die
becauseSerbia is defending her Christian heartland against Muslim
fundamentalists, secessionists, and terrorists. Has this been taken
into
consideration? I presume your advisors have decided to bring
peace by
bombing one of Europe's oldest Christian civilizations into
oblivion.Throughout history it is this very civilization that has
always
been abulwark against the hordes that came from the east to threaten
Europe. It is the Serbians that are known to history as "the People
of the
Gate" because they guarded the door to Europe in the Krajina. The
Krajina
Serbs are now no more thanks to a previous NATO strike in1995.
Do we want
to eliminate one more Orthodox Christian Civilizationbefore the
end of our
century?Not so long ago the southern states of our country attempted
to
secede from this great Union. President Lincoln acted to crush
this
rebellionand many Americans died willingly to keep our country
whole. How
do you suppose your great predecessor would have reacted if a NATO
type
force had threatened him? Are you sure the people of Yugoslavia
are not as
willing to keep their country whole as were our brave America ancestors?As
I write this letter I am listening to your speech on CNN. You are
claiming
Turkey is a "moderate Muslim state". Is that because they are attempting
to
eliminate the Kurdish culture and identity from the face of our
planet? Is
it because they are consistently claiming the Aegean islands of
Greece as
their own and keep up a posture of threat against Greece? The modern
and
"moderate" Turkish State was founded by Mustapha Kemal, the man
who in 1922
burnt the cosmopolitan city of Smyrna to the ground and roasted
alive her
two-hundred thousand Christian occupants. Smyrna was once the jewel
of the
Mediterranean. The American Consul Mr. George Horton, who witnessed
the
carnage, said at the time that not since the Romans razed Carthage
had the
world seen such destruction. Smyrna had had a Christian presence
since the
time the Book of the Revelation was given to Saint John where the
great
city is mentioned. In 1922, the moderate Stateof Turkey put
an end to
that.The modern and "moderate" State of Turkey also killed millions
of
Greek Orthodox Christians in Anatolia and Pontus earlier thiscentury.
In
1955, a year in which you and I both lived, the "moderate"State
of Turkey
aided and abetted a pogrom against the Greek Orthodox population
of
Constantinople. In that year the Greek Orthodox of Constantinople
numbered
over 500,000. Today there a less than 2,000 there.Is this the type
of
moderate Muslim future state that the KLA envisions for Kosovo?History
shows that centuries ago Turkey's Sultan was killed in Kosovo in
his
attempt to defeat the Serbs. During World War One the Serbs lost
a third of
their young men defending freedom. Not so many years ago Hitler's
Wermacht
broke its teeth in Yugoslavia. Mr. President, donot be so na=EFve
as to
believe that the young men of America's armed forces will not pay
a heavy
price in blood if we continue on this road.In 1940 when the Serbs
broke
their pact with the Axis they paid a heavy price for their decision
to join
the side of Freedom. Belgrade was reduced to rubble and thousands
were
slaughtered; yet the Serbs stood fast. Winston Churchill commented
at the
time that "the Serbs had found their soul."I am praying, Mr. President,
that you find your soul and the vision to see the death that will
be
wrought in committing this folly. I pray you find the courage to
face the
American people and tell them we made a mistake and that we must
call off a
NATO strike."Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called
sons of
God."St. Matthew 4:9In Christ, I am,Metropolitan Archbishop PAVLOS
Of the
Greek Orthodox Old CalendarChurch of North and South America"
Iz Podgorice: 25.03.99 (13.40h)
Dragi prijatelju!
Javljam ti se kratko iz srca Podgorice.
Sa tvojima sam se chuo i dobro su i zdravo nakon gadjanja vojnih
i ko zna
kojih sve ciljeva
koje NATO gadje ovdje.
Pogodjeni su sledeci centri i.
aerodrom Golubovci
kasarna Danilovgrad
brdo Shipchanik blizu Tuzi
i brdo Radovche.
Chim budem tachno znao o zalutalom tomahavku javicu ti detaljnije.
To je vec drugi koji promashuje mete !!!
pozdrav iz Podgorice
Milan Jovanovic
Dragi prijatelji,
puno vas se javilo, naki na moju licnu adresu a neki na adresu AKUD
"Sonja
Marinkovic". Hvala vam puno! To nam znaci puno!
Evo sta se desavalo tokom protekle noci prema vestima RTS-a i BK
TV:
1. Redovno nas obavestavaju da su u Skoplju demonstracije i da su
ostetili
Americku, Francusku, Nemacku ambasadu. Videli smo snimke. U Banja
Luci i
Bijeljini veliki protesti, videli smo i snimke. U Moskvi ispred
Americke
ambasade protesti tokom kojih su ostetili i naruzili zgradu jajima
i
farbom. U Becu oko 4000 Srba i jedna grupa Grka demonstriralo.
U Madridu
levicari protestuju na trgu Maljokra (ili tako nesto). U Grckoj
velika
podrska Srbima mada jos uvek ne na trgovima i ulicama. Velika vecina
Britanaca se protivi napadima NATO.
2. Jutros su javili da su dva NATO aviona koji su dosli sa prostora
Hrvatske oborena iznad Fruske Gore
3. Sinoc su bombardovali niski aerodrom i kasarnu Stevan Sindjelic
u Nisu.
Repetitor Jastrebac je gadjan. Zlatibor na udaru. Pogodjena Kosovska
Mitrovica, Djakovica (kasarna) u kojoj ima zrtava, oboren jedan
avion iznad
Kosova i vise projektila. Okolina Beograda je bila na udaru ali
sta su
napali ne znam. Znam samo za Batajnicu.
Ima jos gradova koji su napadnuti ali nisam stigao da napisem.
4. Komandant trece armije nam se obraca iz sata u sat. Koristi se
250
aviona i 450 raketa protiv SRJ. Rekao je da mi imamo bar trecinu
njihovih
sredstava stete na njihovoj strani bi bile mnogo vece. Svaki napad
ima
pocetak i kraj, videcemo kakav ce biti kraj. Nas ne mogu slomiti.
5. Proterani su novinari zemalja sa kojima smo prekinuli diplomatske
odnose.
6. Napadani su i civilni ciljevi, reka je Zivadin Jovanovic francuskoj
televiziji TF1
IZVINITE NA STILU JER SLUSAM VESTI I KUCAM SIMULTANO.
7. Bombardovana Crna Gora. Aerodrom pored Podgorice. Koriscene su
rakete
vece razorne moci.
8. Novi Sad nije napadan tokom noci. Bar ja nisam cuo nista.
9. Ambasador u UN Jovanovic na CNN-u (prenosi RTS)
10. Reporteri Rojtera zakljucuju da NATO nesto skriva jer ne objavljuje
sta
je pogodjeno i sta je cilj agresije
Svi drzavni kanali su stopljeni u jedan. Svi prenose RTS1. BKTV
daje svoje
vesti. Palma preuzima RTS i BKTV. Kosava prenosi RTS1.
Ceo dan idu vesti. Cini mi se da Dnevnik traje skoro 24 h.
Postoji nekoliko muzickih spotova nabijenih patriotizmom koji se
stalno
emituju. Nije lose mada bi mogle da izmisle i nove.
Puno pozdrava od Baneta i AKUD "Sonja Marinkovic".
Univerzitet u Novom Sadu
Akademsko kulturno umetnicko drustvo "Sonja Marinkovic"
http:\\www.akudsm.org.yu\
Blazo Nedic
Noc 3
Danas smo 3 puta bili u sklonistu. Dete se vec naviklo, igra se
sa
drugom decom kad ima mesta. Skloniste je dosta pristojno za ove
uslove,
samo sto sedimo sa kolenima u zubima. Kao na filmu.
Veceras je bilo vrlo neprijatno. Sedeli smo dole od 22.30. do 02.30.
jedino sto su se sirene oglasile posle prvih detonacija.
Zapalili su
Lipovacku Sumu, (tu je negde raketni centar) gorelo je videlo se
do
Dorcola. radio je prvo javio da je pogodjena i Galenika i da se
stvorio
nekakav otrovni oblak, ali je to posle jedno sat vremena demantovano.
A
u tih sat vremena bila su upozorenja da treba pripremiti vlazne
maramice
i peskire i prekriti disajne organe ako se oseti peckanje i sl...
mozete
misliti... bilo je na ovolicko do panike.
KAzu da su gadjali jos svasta oko Beograda. Evo RTS upravo javlja
da su
danas oborena 4 NATO aviona, a da je cak i Pentagon potvrdio za
dva
(znaci mozda 1). Stalno pustaju partizanske filmove, patriotske
pesme a
na radiju parole.
Ja sam u sklonistu povremeno uspevao da uhvatim radio SLobodna
Evropa,
pa sam se unekoliko informisao.
Eto toliko, bice valjda bolje.
Ne verujem da cu budan docekati 06.00. za chat. Mozda kasnije u
toku
dana. Danas je bilo divno vreme oko 21 C. i nisu nas terali u skloniste
sve do 16.30.
Cao svima,
Blazo
Marko
sto se tice nocasnje situacije, gadjano je 17 gradova po celoj
teritoriji srbije i crne gore. da ne navodim, od vecih beograd
podgorica, novi sad, pristina, sombor, i jos desetak gradova. batajnica
je gadjana i jutros, cetvrtak, oko devet ujutro, i tada su se ponovo
cule sirene u beogradu, koje su oznacile prestanak opasnosti oko
12. mi
smo na poslu bili i vratili se oko podneva, posla nema, i izgleda
da jos
neko vreme nece biti. trojelbusi u beogradu stoje, saobracaj je
veoma
redak, ali ima ljudi na ulicama. hleba i mleka nema nigde. telefonske
veze su uzasno otezane, jedva se dobijemo po gradu, internet takodje
vrlo slabo. nocas je proglaseno ratno stanje na celoj teritoriji,
koje
je korak do opste mobilizacije. slobodna prodaja
benzina je obustavljena, ko sta ima u rezervoaru, to mu je, do
sinoc je
bilo redova na pumpama, ja sam jedan odcekao, napunio peglicu sa
svih 18
litara koliko u nju stane, i sad nam je to do ko zna kada. na povratku
sa posla sam pokupio neku devojku koja se vraca u pancevo gde stanuje,
kaze da su nocas strasno precizno gadjali fabriku aviona utva i
vojni
poligon gde se obucavaju spec. jedinice generalstaba. utva je otisla
u
pm,
kaze devojka da su se ex[plozije cule cele noci i da su
gadjali iz avbiona direktno iznad panceva. u batajnici ne znam
sta je
bilo, vesti na televizijama su vrlo slabe, ali radio b92 i studio
b
solidno izvestavaju. bbc na engleskom takodje. svi mi kazu da su
veze
telefonske sa inostranstvom prekinute, sto objasnjava i nemogiucnost
da
dohvatim preko interneta sve sto je izvan euneta.
danas je na ulicama lagana panika, gotovo neprimetna, osim sto
se cuje
po koji stos na temu natoa i slicno, ali ce veceras sigurno ponovo
biti
gusto. mnogu si bili u sklonistima, ljudi se uglavnom ustucavaju
da
uopste izlaze is kuca.
toliko, ko nesto drugo bude cuo, neka javi. cujem da je cnn prilicno
podivljao, kao u slicnim situacijama pre nas, irak, somalija i
druge. ko
bi reko da cemo i mi u taj red da stanemo, ali eto, posle godina
gledanja ratova spolja, jednu i iznutra da vidimo. osim napetosti
zbog
mobilizacije i generalne zabrinutosti koliko ce sve to da traje,
kao i
nerviranja zbog prekinutog posla ( a taman je fino krenulo), ostalo
je
podnosljivo. koliko i do kada, cuce se.
pozdrav, marko.
National Post
> Friday, March 26, 1999
> Page A18,
>
> Ashamed to be a Canadian
> Michael Bliss
>
>
> Canadian aircraft have bombed targets
in Yugoslavia. Our country has
> committed acts of war against a sovereign
European nation. We and our
> NATO allies are attacking a country that
has not attacked us or any
> other country. We are not acting under
the sanction of the United
> Nations or any other font of international
law. We, in fact, are
> acting in direct contravention of the
UN Charter. Nor has Parliament
> authorized our government to make war
on Yugoslavia. What in the world
> is happening to us?
>
> NATO is trying to save lives in Kosovo;
it is waging war in order to
> bring peace to the Balkans, we are told
in good Orwellian doublespeak.
> It's true that a civil war is raging
in a province of Yugoslavia, as
> the government of the country tries to
suppress an armed insurrection.
> Led by the United States, NATO has insisted
that the fighting in
> Kosovo stop, and has developed a peace
plan that would involve
> stationing tens of thousands of foreign
troops on Yugoslavian
> territory. The Yugoslav government will
not agree to the terms of this
> foreign interference in what it deems
a domestic matter. So it is
> being pounded into submission.
>
> Having no brief for Slobodan Milosevic
and his policies, I hope that
> he and other Yugoslavian leaders decide
that the cost of resisting
> NATO assaults is too high, that they
return to the table, and that the
> fighting, by all parties, ends quickly
and permanently. But even if
> that most desirable outcome takes place,
the world is going to pay a
> serious price for such a Kosovo settlement.
The price involves what we
> have done to NATO and what we are doing
to the rule of law. The North
> Atlantic Treaty Organization was created
in 1949 as a defensive
> alliance for mutual protection against
Communist aggression. Canada
> was a founding member of NATO because
we believed such an alliance was
> obviously in our national interest. Without
ever having to fire a
> shot, NATO did help protect us through
the remainder of the Cold War.
> After the Soviet Union collapsed, there
was no obvious role for NATO
> to play, and from a Canadian point of
view a case could be made for
> winding down the military role of the
grand alliance.
>
> Instead, NATO is making war on a sovereign
country to try to enforce
> its view of how that country's internal
affairs should be arranged. It
> is acting as a kind of international
police force, making the rules as
> it goes. It does not have the sanction
of the UN for attacking
> Yugoslavia, only instructions from its
members' governments. A
> military alliance created for purposes
of defence against an obvious
> potential enemy has appointed itself
global enforcer.
>
> Is this what Canadians believe NATO should
be doing? Canada has always
> and only used its military in accordance
with well-understood
> principles of international law. We declared
and fought a just war
> against Nazi Germany. We fought under
the UN flag in Korea and in the
> Gulf War. We made a point of staying
out of the undeclared war in
> Vietnam; we made a point of not taking
military action against Cuba in
> the 1962 missile crisis or supporting
American efforts to overthrow
> Castro. We have always been proud of
our support for the rule of law
> in international affairs. Now we are
complicit with our NATO allies in
> tearing up the rule of law in the name
of an allegedly higher
> principle.
>
> That higher principle is not nearly as
clear as that American leader
> of vision and integrity, Bill Clinton,
suggests. It was not clear that
> the rebellion in Kosovo threatened other
Balkan states. Only if the
> Albanian rebels succeeded, either in
winning independence or in
> persuading other countries to widen the
war, would the Balkans be
> enflamed. Yes, much blood was being shed
as Serbs suppressed the
> Albanian revolt in Kosovo -- just as
it has been shed putting down
> rebellions in Russia, Turkey, the United
States, and Canada, among
> many other countries.
>
> Now that NATO has intervened, of course,
much more blood is being
> shed, the war has been enlarged, and
if the Russians decide to
> intervene the peace of the world might
be threatened.
>
> And the rule of law in the affairs of
nations has been seriously
> undermined. The strong intervene where
and when they choose. Today
> it's NATO attacking Yugoslavia; tomorrow
it might be Iraq attacking
> Kuwait again, or Russia, or China, or
whoever has big guns and
> superficial moral certitude.
>
> It's unprecedented and disheartening
that Canada should be part of a
> retrograde movement toward international
anarchy. We should disengage
> our forces from NATO and begin to ask
why we continue to be part of
> NATO.
>
> Where is Parliament? Why isn't it debating
these great issues of war
> and peace? Why are we risking Canadian
lives and why are Canadians
> killing Yugoslavians?
>
> When I heard the news about our fighter
planes attacking Yugoslavia I
> felt ashamed to be a Canadian. What bitter
irony, to think about
> Canadians' past enthusiasm for bringing
war criminals to justice.
> Well, we have joined their game. Maybe
there is good reason to bring
> Madame Justice Louise Arbour home.
>
> Michael Bliss teaches history at the
University of Toronto.
Leka
Upravo javljaju da su iz tri Nato baze u Engleskoj i Italiji poletjeli
bombarderi opremljeni krstarecim robotima , i novi napad se moze
ocekivati
u 16 :00. Svedski strucnjaci su rekli da Nato uobicava kriti svoje
gubitke
sve dok ne nadu svoje pilote, sto objasnjava demantovanje obaranja
njihovih
aviona. Dolaze i vijesti da nase trupe pale Albanska sela i protjeruju
ispred sebe siptare(sto i nije tako lose). CNN je objavio da je
20
Albanskih ucitelja strijeljano pred djacima. Wesley Clark je rekao
za CNN
da ce nato gadjati srpske trupe na Kosovu. Svedski vojni analiticari
upravo
imaju diskusiju na televiziji o dogovoru u Francuskoj. Svi su kategoricni
da je dogovor neprihvatljiv i tako napravljen da ga srbi nikad
ne bi
prihvatili. Ovde javno mjenje se sve u visoj mjeri okrece protiv
Nato
akcije. Puno pozdrava od Leke.P:S postoji li jos uvijek kafic Camel
u N S.
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Rodika
Bane zdravo,
Hvala ti na poruci - ovde ne izvestavaju sta je bombardovano
u drugom
naletu - vise ih brine sto su novnari proterani a i cude se sto
se ne
uzvraca napad?! Po ovim vestima odavde uopste se ne uzvraca napad.
Sinoc smo Bata ja i nase devojcice bili na demonstracijama u Torontu
- bilo
nas je oko 2,5 do 3 hiljade. Bilo je dosta ljudi iz "Oplenca".
Do kraja je
intervenisala milicija jer su opet se bacala jaja a ovog puta i
"kokteli"
koji su izazvali veliku vatru kod zgrade americke ambasade. Do
kraja se
umesala i policija na konjima - dva policajca su ranjena i 5 ljudi
je
uhapseno.
Danas se demonstracije nastavljaju. "Oplenac" ce se pojaviti
sutra na
demonstracijama u nosnjama.
Bezuspesno pokusavam da nazovem nase tamo - telefoni za sada
ne rade -
verovatno su vas iskljucili. Pokusacu ponovo. Da li cete moci primiti
ove
poruke tada? Pokusacu.
Javi se molim te i hvala ti sto nas obavestavas. Sinoc sam
uspela da
slusam B92 i da tamo citam vesti jer je to bilo prekinuto do sinoc.
Javicu se kasnije. Pozdrav od
Rodike
Branislav
Palo je vece i sirene u Novom Sadu su se oglasile. Po poslednjim
vestima
iznad Bijeljine su oborena dva aviona NATO koja su nameravala da
se domognu
aerodroma u Tuzli. Tokom dana je napadnuta sira okolina Beograda.
Znam
sigurno da je Avala bila na listi. Videcemo sta ce doneti noc.
Na radiju
pominju civilne zrtve i pogodjenu bolnicu u Nisu. Javljaju se ljudi
sa
sremske strane koji su videli obaranje dva NATO aviona iznad Fruske
Gore
prosle noci . OVO JE SIGURNA VEST. Cak su i opisali kako je to
izvedeno.
Svi su videli isto.
Blazo
Noc 3(nastavak)
Malo sam trcao pred rudu sinoc. I cetvrti put su zasvirale sirene
i to u
4.00. daklem a legli smo u tri. Moze biti da oni to nas zajebavaju
?
Vera i ja smo se pogledali, i odlucili da se "spustimo" samo do
predsoblja. MArija je nastavila da spava, a mi smo sacekali sirenu
za
prestanak negde oko 5 i ja sam se tada komirao. Sad je skoro 9
, Marija
je kao svajcarski sat ustala u 7.30 (kao i svaki dan) i trazi da
joj
pustim "Anabelinu zelju" a Vera "hvata jos koji minut sna. Samo
da
posaljem porukicu, pa idem po lebac i mleko.
Juce sam 5 puta pocinjao da gledam vidao "JAckie Brown" koji sam
iz
nekog razloga preskocio kad je bio u bioskopima. Danas cu vala
da je
odgledam.
Nemam detalje oko ovog jutrosnjeg napada, javicu cim ih bude.
Pozdrav svima,
Blazo
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